BBC America will premiere Torchwood: Children of Earth on July 20th at 9 pm ET/PT. The third series, comprised of five serialized episodes, will air across five consecutive nights that week.
I'll be watching the last episode shortly... but last nights was frelling brutal. I shall say no more so as to avoid spoilers.
I have got to say that this move to eliminate such a fine show pisses me off. I consider the BBC/BBCA to have shows with such higher quality than US shows as to farcical. The move to eliminate Torchwood from the lineup is a bold move in the opposite direction. I only hope that somehow, some way the BBC resurrects this show after the T:CoE storyline.
I will miss this show; at least I recorded all the episodes.
From what I'm reading online, the staggering numbers turned in by Season 3 have pretty much assured a Season 4. Now exactly how that's going to happen given the events of Season 3 are... questionable.. but hey... I'm willing to give it a go.
I was very grrr-angry (and cried like a little girl) at the events of Season 3 - but I recognize that's due to the skillful writing and powerful portrayals of these characters. I cared. A lot. And sometimes bad things happen. And if it's Torchwood, that's damn near garaunteed. :)
Brilliant but sooo bleak. My wife didn't like the ending and I must admit I'm in two minds.
RTD has said that the story for season 4 is ready and waiting and it depended on how well season 3 did. Viewing figures seemed pretty good so...
I guess season 4 will be a reboot a bit like the next season of Doctor Who (new Doctor, new head writer, new production crew). Still things will have to change a bit, considering...
The BBC have a habit of trying to eliminate Dr Who in all its forms. It wasn't Sylvester McCoy's portrayal of the Doctor that killed it, it was really, really poor scheduling and general hatred from the top brass. Let's not forget he had some really strong storylines in the closing days - and that fantastic Dalek Abomination.
Every series has to put up with this. Unfortunately, it's taken Torchwood 3 series to really find it's stride. I loved the single story over the course of a week, and the BBC were incredibly brave to take up prime viewing time to do it. I dearly hope they can find a way to reboot Torchwood - the rumours of Torchwood 4 in Glasgow would be good to follow up on. Torchwood India existed in the 3 radio plays they've just done. So it can be done. And I hope BBC Wales are up to the challenge.
Torchwood 4 will happen, methinks. The numbers were just too good in Britain, and I bet they are just as good in America when it airs here next week. I like the idea of finding out what happened to T4 and using that as a base for a reboot. You wouldn't even need Jack for it to start - not really.
Some sort of Time bubble or something, "pop" out they come, and it's like "Bloody hell - everyone's gone!"
Bleak as a salten sea to a man dying of thirst... that's our Torchwood. I hated RTD for about an hour, but then got over myself and applauded him for his boldness.
Now, if only they could reboot Being Human to be more like the original pilot episode, I'd be happier.
I'm still mad there was no second series of Ultraviolet.
Not sure I'd be up for a 4th season of Torchwood, given that it would have to be a very different beast. On the other hand, with Children of Earth they demonstrated they can make damn good TV (as opposed to whatever charitable adjectives I might bestow on the first 2 series. )
Seconded on the UV. I go back and re-watch that show regularly. Admittedly, I then move on to some of Jack Davenport's funnier stuff - i.e. Coupling - and from there I'd love to get my hands on the series "Strange" - demon hunting priest played by Jeff from Coupling.
Sapphire & Steel is still going strong, admittedly in audiobook form. Scared the crap out of me when I was a kid. I can still see those dancing chickens... Weird.
And Being Human... Well, I watched the pilot after watching the series. So I already had an idea of the characters in my mind. Herrick was one of the finest villains ever to grace the screen - in the series. I wasn't keen on the Herrick of the pilot. I'd see the guy who plays George in Doctor Who and wasn't enamoured of him as an actor from that. However, in both series and pilot he's brilliant. Mitchell is far better in the series - reminded me too much of Dylan Moran, the comedian, in the pilot. And the pilot's ghost was just different. I'd sure she would've been just as good in the series as the lass they had, but she wasn't. So we'll never know. I both loved and hated the way they ended the series - very similar to Firefly in the way it had me shouting "But you can't end it there!!!" at the TV.
If they kill Torchwood, they kill Torchwood. Someone'll find a way to bring it back in some form - Big Finish for radio plays and audio books, for instance, where you don't have to worry so much about an F/X budget and how this is going to look in HD. In a way, that's better - I know, deep down, that the last Blake's Seven episodes I heard are just a few guys standing around in a studio reading their scripts. But that doesn't stop it being Blake's Seven. In fact, it's more like Blake's Seven than the original because the mind's eye paints over the crap sets, the quarry that's now the Bluewater shopping centre, the dodgy haircuts and the box of lights they called a ship's computer. I loved it. The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy just doesn't work in visual form! It's too perfect as a radio show. The TV series was okay, the film more than a little meh, but the 5 radio series? Sheer bloody genius. Discworld will never work on-screen but if they could put together a radio series it would have a fighting chance. I'm drifting. No, not the clowns!
The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy just doesn't work in visual form! It's too perfect as a radio show.
This is completely true. Listen to the radio show and if you have to read it get the scripts. Did the TV show do anything other than replace the audience's imagination with dodgy special effects.
And the first ghost was way better. Might not have fitted the series story arc so well, but ...
I forgot about Strange. That was quite good though obviously not *that* memorable (I've forgotten a lot of it).
I believe there's going to be another series of Being Human so hang fire on the "But you can't end it there!!!". Actually, I haven't seen the pilot of Being Human so I actually couldn't/shouldn't comment. All I know is that I enjoyed the series immensely.
As to TV versus radio versus film versus books, it's often the case that the first medium you experience these things is generally your personal favourite. Or at least you're less inclined to dislike it. I first experienced Hitch-hiker's as the TV show, so I have fond memories of that. Sure the radio plays are good as well but I thought the TV show was perhaps just as good. The guide, with its simple day-glo graphics, will always look like the TV version to me.
Discworld, for me, seems somewhat boring on screen. It reads better. But then again I read them first so I'm expecting what I experienced in my imagination (plus I like the pacing and wordplay that PTerry uses).
Imajica wrote:
If they kill Torchwood, they kill Torchwood.
Please don't kill Torchwood. I'm sure this site needs all the players it can get.
Well as long as we're going OT, I'm watching No Heroics lately. It's kindasorta ITV's version of Mystery Men. First episode was not of the funny, but the second one was pretty good.
The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy just doesn't work in visual form! It's too perfect as a radio show.
This is completely true. Listen to the radio show and if you have to read it get the scripts. Did the TV show do anything other than replace the audience's imagination with dodgy special effects.
And the first ghost was way better. Might not have fitted the series story arc so well, but ...
HHGTTG: The books will always be my choosen venue for those - Marvin's voice in my head is so much better than anything I've heard elsewhere.
First series ghost: I liked how timid and confused and sort of unreal she was - the actress did a phenomenal job of making me think she was otherworldly. The new ghost is kind of just "oh look - another bit of pretty fluff in a M&S twinset." The original vamp was also a lot more... different. It's like they just prettified everything for the new series - brighter colors, a nicer flat, prettier actors. I liked the more 'normal' feel of the pilot better is all. But that's just me :)
I forgot about Strange. That was quite good though obviously not *that* memorable (I've forgotten a lot of it).
I believe there's going to be another series of Being Human so hang fire on the "But you can't end it there!!!". Actually, I haven't seen the pilot of Being Human so I actually couldn't/shouldn't comment. All I know is that I enjoyed the series immensely.
As to TV versus radio versus film versus books, it's often the case that the first medium you experience these things is generally your personal favourite. Or at least you're less inclined to dislike it. I first experienced Hitch-hiker's as the TV show, so I have fond memories of that. Sure the radio plays are good as well but I thought the TV show was perhaps just as good. The guide, with its simple day-glo graphics, will always look like the TV version to me.
Discworld, for me, seems somewhat boring on screen. It reads better. But then again I read them first so I'm expecting what I experienced in my imagination (plus I like the pacing and wordplay that PTerry uses).
Hogfather was actually pretty good on the screen - the audiobooks for Discworld are my faves though...
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If they kill Torchwood, they kill Torchwood.
Please don't kill Torchwood. I'm sure this site needs all the players it can get.
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Hehe, I loved No-heroics :) Never seen Sapphire and Steel...
I liked the Sylvester McCoy Dr Who, but you're right, definitely the best thing about his run was some of the amazing stories and, of course, Ace, the most hardcore assistant ever...
Hmm. We must be thinking about different programmes here. Sure, the wizards had their moments - far fewer of them than in the books - and whoever designed Hex and BS Johnson's shower did a good job but the whole thing lost it when they showed Death. In all his rubbery mask glory. The voice was good - Ian Richardson's got the perfect voice for him - but the rest of their visualisation of Death was wrong on so many levels. And Albert being played by David Jason? Puh-lease! That's about as convincing as getting him to play Rincewind (no, wait, they actually did that, didn't they.) And I had to turn the brightness on the TV up a lot. Why was the whole thing so dark?
Discworld has so much potential on the big screen but they missed by just enough to put me off. Books that good should be left alone unless placed in the hands of someone trustworty. Like Terry Gilliam or Tim Burton. Now that's my dream movie - Good Omens done by those two.
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*gasp* What?!
Seriously, that's not okay.
Please let me know when it's due to debut in the states. I don't think it's set up on my most recent DVR.
BBC America will premiere Torchwood: Children of Earth on July 20th at 9 pm ET/PT. The third series, comprised of five serialized episodes, will air across five consecutive nights that week.
I'll be watching the last episode shortly... but last nights was frelling brutal. I shall say no more so as to avoid spoilers.
We need spoiler tags.
[spoiler]Yeah, that was brutal. I'm not expecting a season four.[/spoiler]
I have got to say that this move to eliminate such a fine show pisses me off. I consider the BBC/BBCA to have shows with such higher quality than US shows as to farcical. The move to eliminate Torchwood from the lineup is a bold move in the opposite direction. I only hope that somehow, some way the BBC resurrects this show after the T:CoE storyline.
I will miss this show; at least I recorded all the episodes.
From what I'm reading online, the staggering numbers turned in by Season 3 have pretty much assured a Season 4. Now exactly how that's going to happen given the events of Season 3 are... questionable.. but hey... I'm willing to give it a go.
I was very grrr-angry (and cried like a little girl) at the events of Season 3 - but I recognize that's due to the skillful writing and powerful portrayals of these characters. I cared. A lot. And sometimes bad things happen. And if it's Torchwood, that's damn near garaunteed. :)
So i'll cross my fingers and hope for the best.
Wow... just wow.
If you are a parent, watch this, and aren't bawling your eyes out you have no soul.
Brilliant...
Please don't tease.
Is there really a chance for the good Captain and team (hopefully with some new characters) to return?
*stops typing to coerce the all*
Brilliant but sooo bleak.
My wife didn't like the ending and I must admit I'm in two minds.
RTD has said that the story for season 4 is ready and waiting and it depended on how well season 3 did. Viewing figures seemed pretty good so...
I guess season 4 will be a reboot a bit like the next season of Doctor Who (new Doctor, new head writer, new production crew). Still things will have to change a bit, considering...
The BBC have a habit of trying to eliminate Dr Who in all its forms. It wasn't Sylvester McCoy's portrayal of the Doctor that killed it, it was really, really poor scheduling and general hatred from the top brass. Let's not forget he had some really strong storylines in the closing days - and that fantastic Dalek Abomination.
Every series has to put up with this. Unfortunately, it's taken Torchwood 3 series to really find it's stride. I loved the single story over the course of a week, and the BBC were incredibly brave to take up prime viewing time to do it. I dearly hope they can find a way to reboot Torchwood - the rumours of Torchwood 4 in Glasgow would be good to follow up on. Torchwood India existed in the 3 radio plays they've just done. So it can be done. And I hope BBC Wales are up to the challenge.
Torchwood 4 will happen, methinks. The numbers were just too good in Britain, and I bet they are just as good in America when it airs here next week. I like the idea of finding out what happened to T4 and using that as a base for a reboot. You wouldn't even need Jack for it to start - not really.
Some sort of Time bubble or something, "pop" out they come, and it's like "Bloody hell - everyone's gone!"
Bleak as a salten sea to a man dying of thirst... that's our Torchwood. I hated RTD for about an hour, but then got over myself and applauded him for his boldness.
Now, if only they could reboot Being Human to be more like the original pilot episode, I'd be happier.
But I, for one, like Being Human as it is thank-you-very-much. Don't knock the best show on telly this year.
Y'know I'd like someone to do a reboot of Sapphire and Steel. Or to carry on Ultraviolet. They'd probably cock 'em up though.
But I, for one, like Being Human as it is thank-you-very-much. Don't knock the best show on telly this year.
But... but... the original ghost was better... (stamps feet, gets petulant) :)
I love me some Sapphire and Steel. It would be awesome to reboot, IF they could retain that original alien feel to the show.
Ultraviolet was fairly interesting as well - but I'd take S&S over that.
I'm still mad there was no second series of Ultraviolet.
Not sure I'd be up for a 4th season of Torchwood, given that it would have to be a very different beast. On the other hand, with Children of Earth they demonstrated they can make damn good TV (as opposed to whatever charitable adjectives I might bestow on the first 2 series.
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Seconded on the UV. I go back and re-watch that show regularly. Admittedly, I then move on to some of Jack Davenport's funnier stuff - i.e. Coupling - and from there I'd love to get my hands on the series "Strange" - demon hunting priest played by Jeff from Coupling.
Sapphire & Steel is still going strong, admittedly in audiobook form. Scared the crap out of me when I was a kid. I can still see those dancing chickens... Weird.
And Being Human... Well, I watched the pilot after watching the series. So I already had an idea of the characters in my mind. Herrick was one of the finest villains ever to grace the screen - in the series. I wasn't keen on the Herrick of the pilot. I'd see the guy who plays George in Doctor Who and wasn't enamoured of him as an actor from that. However, in both series and pilot he's brilliant. Mitchell is far better in the series - reminded me too much of Dylan Moran, the comedian, in the pilot. And the pilot's ghost was just different. I'd sure she would've been just as good in the series as the lass they had, but she wasn't. So we'll never know. I both loved and hated the way they ended the series - very similar to Firefly in the way it had me shouting "But you can't end it there!!!" at the TV.
If they kill Torchwood, they kill Torchwood. Someone'll find a way to bring it back in some form - Big Finish for radio plays and audio books, for instance, where you don't have to worry so much about an F/X budget and how this is going to look in HD. In a way, that's better - I know, deep down, that the last Blake's Seven episodes I heard are just a few guys standing around in a studio reading their scripts. But that doesn't stop it being Blake's Seven. In fact, it's more like Blake's Seven than the original because the mind's eye paints over the crap sets, the quarry that's now the Bluewater shopping centre, the dodgy haircuts and the box of lights they called a ship's computer. I loved it. The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy just doesn't work in visual form! It's too perfect as a radio show. The TV series was okay, the film more than a little meh, but the 5 radio series? Sheer bloody genius. Discworld will never work on-screen but if they could put together a radio series it would have a fighting chance. I'm drifting. No, not the clowns!
Slightly off-topic by the end there. Discuss.
This is completely true. Listen to the radio show and if you have to read it get the scripts. Did the TV show do anything other than replace the audience's imagination with dodgy special effects.
And the first ghost was way better. Might not have fitted the series story arc so well, but ...
Just slightly, yes.
Still, I think I started it.
I forgot about Strange. That was quite good though obviously not *that* memorable (I've forgotten a lot of it).
I believe there's going to be another series of Being Human so hang fire on the "But you can't end it there!!!". Actually, I haven't seen the pilot of Being Human so I actually couldn't/shouldn't comment. All I know is that I enjoyed the series immensely.
As to TV versus radio versus film versus books, it's often the case that the first medium you experience these things is generally your personal favourite. Or at least you're less inclined to dislike it. I first experienced Hitch-hiker's as the TV show, so I have fond memories of that. Sure the radio plays are good as well but I thought the TV show was perhaps just as good. The guide, with its simple day-glo graphics, will always look like the TV version to me.
Discworld, for me, seems somewhat boring on screen. It reads better. But then again I read them first so I'm expecting what I experienced in my imagination (plus I like the pacing and wordplay that PTerry uses).
Please don't kill Torchwood. I'm sure this site needs all the players it can get.
Well as long as we're going OT, I'm watching No Heroics lately. It's kindasorta ITV's version of Mystery Men. First episode was not of the funny, but the second one was pretty good.
This is completely true. Listen to the radio show and if you have to read it get the scripts. Did the TV show do anything other than replace the audience's imagination with dodgy special effects.
And the first ghost was way better. Might not have fitted the series story arc so well, but ...
HHGTTG: The books will always be my choosen venue for those - Marvin's voice in my head is so much better than anything I've heard elsewhere.
First series ghost: I liked how timid and confused and sort of unreal she was - the actress did a phenomenal job of making me think she was otherworldly. The new ghost is kind of just "oh look - another bit of pretty fluff in a M&S twinset." The original vamp was also a lot more... different. It's like they just prettified everything for the new series - brighter colors, a nicer flat, prettier actors. I liked the more 'normal' feel of the pilot better is all. But that's just me :)
Just slightly, yes.
Still, I think I started it.
I forgot about Strange. That was quite good though obviously not *that* memorable (I've forgotten a lot of it).
I believe there's going to be another series of Being Human so hang fire on the "But you can't end it there!!!". Actually, I haven't seen the pilot of Being Human so I actually couldn't/shouldn't comment. All I know is that I enjoyed the series immensely.
As to TV versus radio versus film versus books, it's often the case that the first medium you experience these things is generally your personal favourite. Or at least you're less inclined to dislike it. I first experienced Hitch-hiker's as the TV show, so I have fond memories of that. Sure the radio plays are good as well but I thought the TV show was perhaps just as good. The guide, with its simple day-glo graphics, will always look like the TV version to me.
Discworld, for me, seems somewhat boring on screen. It reads better. But then again I read them first so I'm expecting what I experienced in my imagination (plus I like the pacing and wordplay that PTerry uses).
Hogfather was actually pretty good on the screen - the audiobooks for Discworld are my faves though...
Please don't kill Torchwood. I'm sure this site needs all the players it can get.
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Um.. yeah.. what he said.
Hehe, I loved No-heroics :) Never seen Sapphire and Steel...
I liked the Sylvester McCoy Dr Who, but you're right, definitely the best thing about his run was some of the amazing stories and, of course, Ace, the most hardcore assistant ever...
Hmm. We must be thinking about different programmes here. Sure, the wizards had their moments - far fewer of them than in the books - and whoever designed Hex and BS Johnson's shower did a good job but the whole thing lost it when they showed Death. In all his rubbery mask glory. The voice was good - Ian Richardson's got the perfect voice for him - but the rest of their visualisation of Death was wrong on so many levels. And Albert being played by David Jason? Puh-lease! That's about as convincing as getting him to play Rincewind (no, wait, they actually did that, didn't they.) And I had to turn the brightness on the TV up a lot. Why was the whole thing so dark?
Discworld has so much potential on the big screen but they missed by just enough to put me off. Books that good should be left alone unless placed in the hands of someone trustworty. Like Terry Gilliam or Tim Burton. Now that's my dream movie - Good Omens done by those two.
Ah!!! Good Omens.
I could not put that book down.
LOL
(cries)
I watched number 4 tonight and I'm just sick to my stomach over it.
that was just wrong. i hate them all.
*sniffles* *stomp* Hate 'em!
Number 5 is even better.
What a wonderful happy ending!
What a wonderful happy ending!
hate 'em.
If they touch Gwen....
Series Four..... confirmed!
http://www.drwho-online.co.uk/news/Default.aspx#spinoffs-torchwood-serie...
Really?!
*clap* *clap* *clap*
(runs around in circles all giddy-like)
Yeah...season four. But not on BBC America. On STARZ.
So pay up for a premium channel if you wanna see season four.